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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://legendsrevealed.com/sports/2009/04/22/retiring-under-poor-circumstances/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Leafs don’t usually retire numbers, choosing to “honour” them instead. I am not sure what the distinction is exactly, but there is one.&quot;

Retired numbers relate to tragedy, but the honoured numbers are just in recognition of famous players and can still technically be worn if the situation merits. Although they don&#039;t have any honoured members for #8, if the Leafs traded for Ovetchkin, it&#039;s entirely possible that he&#039;d be allowed to wear the number with a patch denoting it&#039;s a special number.

Also, the Leafs don&#039;t want to wind up like the Habs, where virtually the entire team has &quot;training camp numbers&quot; because they&#039;ve retired so many of the traditional 1-20 numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Leafs don’t usually retire numbers, choosing to “honour” them instead. I am not sure what the distinction is exactly, but there is one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Retired numbers relate to tragedy, but the honoured numbers are just in recognition of famous players and can still technically be worn if the situation merits. Although they don&#8217;t have any honoured members for #8, if the Leafs traded for Ovetchkin, it&#8217;s entirely possible that he&#8217;d be allowed to wear the number with a patch denoting it&#8217;s a special number.</p>
<p>Also, the Leafs don&#8217;t want to wind up like the Habs, where virtually the entire team has &#8220;training camp numbers&#8221; because they&#8217;ve retired so many of the traditional 1-20 numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Oogabooga</title>
		<link>http://legendsrevealed.com/sports/2009/04/22/retiring-under-poor-circumstances/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Oogabooga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third picture down - &quot;I&#039;m sorry, eh?&quot; &quot;No problem, eh?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third picture down &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, eh?&#8221; &#8220;No problem, eh?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Yeah, Graeme, I meant to write “charged” not tried, as I, too, couldn’t find anything on him being actually tried.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think he was even charged. I think there was talk about it but it never got that far. During the whole crisis, Shore went to Bermuda for three weeks-- something he would have never done had he been actually charged. I think, as the Hockey Hall of Fame site says, the Police were investigating it and were thinking of preferring charges if Bailey died.</description>
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Yeah, Graeme, I meant to write “charged” not tried, as I, too, couldn’t find anything on him being actually tried.
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<p>I don&#8217;t think he was even charged. I think there was talk about it but it never got that far. During the whole crisis, Shore went to Bermuda for three weeks&#8211; something he would have never done had he been actually charged. I think, as the Hockey Hall of Fame site says, the Police were investigating it and were thinking of preferring charges if Bailey died.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://legendsrevealed.com/sports/2009/04/22/retiring-under-poor-circumstances/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Graeme, I meant to write &quot;charged&quot; not tried, as I, too, couldn&#039;t find anything on him being actually tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Graeme, I meant to write &#8220;charged&#8221; not tried, as I, too, couldn&#8217;t find anything on him being actually tried.</p>
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		<title>By: John Chidley-Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Chidley-Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with MarkBlack... in fact, it&#039;s my understanding that one of the reasons that Dave Keon&#039;s number has not been honoured is that he wants it permanently retired so that no one else can wear it, and the Leafs refuse to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with MarkBlack&#8230; in fact, it&#8217;s my understanding that one of the reasons that Dave Keon&#8217;s number has not been honoured is that he wants it permanently retired so that no one else can wear it, and the Leafs refuse to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
and was actually tried for attempted murder! 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think there was talk of Shore being charged but nowhere in anything I have ever read on the incident (aside from Bailey&#039;s wikipedia page, where I think you took this) was Shore actually charged for anything much less put on trial. Bailey&#039;s Hockey Hall of Fame page says Shore was certainly under investigation by Boston police for the incident and they would be preferring manslaughter charges if he died but that&#039;s about as close as it came.

http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p197502&amp;type=Player&amp;page=bio&amp;list=ByName#photo

What you don&#039;t mention is that that minutes after Bailey was knocked to the ice, Leafs player Reg Horner decked Shore and knocked him out cold as well!</description>
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and was actually tried for attempted murder!
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<p>I think there was talk of Shore being charged but nowhere in anything I have ever read on the incident (aside from Bailey&#8217;s wikipedia page, where I think you took this) was Shore actually charged for anything much less put on trial. Bailey&#8217;s Hockey Hall of Fame page says Shore was certainly under investigation by Boston police for the incident and they would be preferring manslaughter charges if he died but that&#8217;s about as close as it came.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p197502&#038;type=Player&#038;page=bio&#038;list=ByName#photo" rel="nofollow">http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p197502&#038;type=Player&#038;page=bio&#038;list=ByName#photo</a></p>
<p>What you don&#8217;t mention is that that minutes after Bailey was knocked to the ice, Leafs player Reg Horner decked Shore and knocked him out cold as well!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkBlack</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkBlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also interesting to note that Bailey&#039;s number is one of only two numbers permanently retired by the Leafs, the other being Bill Barilko&#039;s number 5.

The Leafs don&#039;t usually retire numbers, choosing to &quot;honour&quot; them instead. I am not sure what the distinction is exactly, but there is one. Maybe it&#039;s fodder for another question/answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to note that Bailey&#8217;s number is one of only two numbers permanently retired by the Leafs, the other being Bill Barilko&#8217;s number 5.</p>
<p>The Leafs don&#8217;t usually retire numbers, choosing to &#8220;honour&#8221; them instead. I am not sure what the distinction is exactly, but there is one. Maybe it&#8217;s fodder for another question/answer.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources &#187; Batman Disappearance Question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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